Tuesday, 18 November 2014

Where did the Wild Caught Icelandic Orcas go?

Orca                         date caught                    age                          where to          time in captivity

Kim                            25.10.1976                    5               Marineland Antibes                5.5yrs
Keanu                        25.10.1976                     1                    Seaworld                         15 yrs
Gudrun                      25.10.1976                less than 1           Seaworld                         19 yrs

Magnus                     10.12.1977                    1                     Harderwijk                       2 months
Canuck 2                   10.12.1977                    2                     Seaworld                           4 yrs
Kona 2                      10.12.1977                    1                     Seaworld                           10 yrs
Kandu 5                    10.12.1977                    3                     Seaworld                           12 yrs
Hoi Wai                     10.12.1977               less than 1            Ocean Park                       19 years
Winnie                       10.12.1977               less than 1            Seaworld                          24 yrs

No name                   26.10.1978                    1                      Saedyrasafnid                     2 months
Shawn                      26.10.1978                    1                      Seaworld                            1 yr
Betty                        26.10.1978                    3                      Antibes                               9 yrs
Kahana                     26.10.1978                    1                      Seaworld                            12 yrs
Kotar                        26.10.1978              less than 1              Seaworld                            16 yrs
Katina                       26.10.1978                    2                      Seaworld
Kasatka                    26.10.1978                    1                      Seaworld

no name                        11.1978                    1                       Saedyrasafnid                     3 months

Dzul-ha                         07.1979                    1                      Aquarama on Parade            4 yrs

Kiska                            10.1979                   3                        Marineland
no name                        11.1979                    3                     Marineland Ontario                3 months
King                              11.1979             less than 1               Kamogawa                           4 yrs
Caren                            11.1979                    2                      Kamogawa                           7 yrs

Benkei 2                        10/1980             less than 1              Nanki Shirahama                   2.5 yrs
Finna                       19.11.1980                   3                        Vancouver                           17 yrs
Vigga                       19.11.1980                   1                        Marine World                      19 yrs
Bjossa                     19.11.1980                   3                        Seaworld                             21 yrs
Ulises                      19.11.1980                   3                        Seaworld

no name                       10.1981                   4                        Marineland                            ?
no name                       10.1981             less than 1                Clacton Pier                         2 months
Neptune                       10.1981                   4                        Clacton Pier                         1 yr
Nemo                           10.1981            less than 1                 Windsor                              5 yrs
Ruka                            10.1981                  2                         Nanki Shirahama                 18 yrs
Nootka 5                      10.1981                  2                         Marineland                          26 yrs

no name                       10.1982                  1                         Sealand Victoria,                  8 months
Nootka 4                      10.1982                  3                         Seaworld                             12 yrs
Haida 2                        10.1982             less than 1                Seaworld                              19 yrs
Kim 2                           10.1982            less than 1                 Antibes                                 23 yrs
Freya                            10/1982                 1                         Antibes

Tilikum                      9.11.1983                 2                         Seaworld

Nandu                     14.11.1983                 2                          Acuarama Sao Paulo             4 yrs
Samoa                     14.11.1983                 3                         Seaworld                               8 yrs

no name                       11.1984                 4                         Saedyrasafnid                        2 months
Freyja / Patty                11.1984                 2                         Kamogawa                            3 yrs
Junior                           11.1984                 2                         Marineland                            9 yrs
Kandu 7                       11.1984                 6                         Marineland                           21 yrs
Bingo                           11.1984                 2                         Kamogawa                           29 yrs

Prince                          10.1987                 3                         Ocean Park                           4 yrs
Maggie                         10.1987                3                         Kamogawa                            10 yrs
Oscar                          10.1987                 1                         Kamogawa                            25 yrs
Stella                           10.1987                 1                         Kamogawa

Ai                                10.1989                 1-2                     Nanki Shirahama                     6 yrs
Tanouk                        10.1989                  3                       Izu-Mito Sea Paradise            11 yrs
Ran                             10.1989                 1-2                      Nanki Shirahama                   15 yrs
Sharkan                       10.1989                  4                       Antibes                                  19 yrs 


Seaworld took 18
Antibes took 5
Ocean Park Hong Kong took 2
Kamogawa took 7
Nanki Shirahama took 4
Izu Mito Sea Paradise1
UK took 3
Marineland took 6
Acquarama took 1
Vancouver took 1
Marineworld took 1
Sealand took 1

Harderwijk   Saedyrasafnid had 4 babies die, they can't count as took into the entertainment industry as both places were holding facilities.

54 were taken from Icelandic waters and only 7 are still alive.


There is much debate too regarding this video and the identity of the orcas in the pictures.

As you can see from the stills, there seems to be 2 relatively similar size and age, 1 a little smaller and one very much smaller. 
none particular standing out as larger than the others

2 to the right seem pretty much similar size with the left much smaller

you can see from this angle the middle orca is very much smaller.
Presuming that these were all captured together, as we only see one being lowered into the tank. The options of who there are from the capture data above is.

1.
Kiska                            10.1979                   3                        Marineland
no name                        11.1979                    3                     Marineland Ontario                3 months
King                              11.1979             less than 1               Kamogawa                           4 yrs
Caren                            11.1979                    2                      Kamogawa                           7 yrs

2.
Finna                       19.11.1980                   3                        Vancouver                           17 yrs
Vigga                       19.11.1980                   1                        Marine World                      19 yrs
Bjossa                     19.11.1980                   3                        Vancouver/Seaworld            21 yrs
Ulises                      19.11.1980                   3                        Seaworld
3.
Prince                          10.1987                 3                         Ocean Park                           4 yrs
Maggie                         10.1987                3                         Kamogawa                            10 yrs
Oscar                          10.1987                 1                         Kamogawa                            25 yrs
Stella                           10.1987                 1                         Kamogawa
4.
Ai                                10.1989                 1-2                     Nanki Shirahama                     6 yrs
Tanouk                        10.1989                  3                       Izu-Mito Sea Paradise            11 yrs
Ran                             10.1989                 1-2                      Nanki Shirahama                   15 yrs
Sharkan                       10.1989                  4                       Antibes                                  19 yrs 

In my opinion the last 2 groups can be ruled out as Sharkan was 4, Tanouk 3 and Ai and Ran 1-2, in that group there are 3 similar size and 1 smaller orca.

Same with the third group it would be 2 small.

Group 2 where Vigga is the small orca or group 1 where King is the small orca.

I came across this picture

left to right Bjossa, Finna, Benkei 2, Vigga

Benkei 2 was captured 1 month previously to the other 4 and was also under 1, you can see the size difference in the picture above. This is them arriving at Vancouver Aquarium.

The Aquarium only wanted 2 orca keeping Finna and Bjossa, Vigga was sold to Marineland Africa (Six Flags) in 1981 to be a companion for Yaka and Benkei 2 was sold to
Nanki Shirahama. As we all know Ulises wouldn't have come into it as he went round quite a few parks before finally arriving at Seaworld.

I think the orca being lowered into the pool is Ulises, and the 4 out on the slide out are Bjossa, Finna, Benkei 2 and Vigga being prepared for their flight to Vancouver. 

 
 What do you think, leave me a comment?   

With regards to Seaworld, they need to be honest and own what happened in Iceland as people like this will keep coming forward and they are the only facility in the world to take orcas in double figures out of the Icelandic population and they still have 4 in their tanks waiting to go one of 2 ways, either home so they can feel the ocean one again, but still receive human care or on the back of a flat bed. Which will it be Seaworld?





















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